Toshiko Akiyoshi Smithsonian Interview Block 134 (Q18087)

But thats the best way. And, uh, my case was, thats why I say "learn by yourself," by that .... Its always been one way, maybe, Im grappling, maybe ... it was not so convenient a time as today, there werent any records available, you couldnt buy them), first of all. But, on the other hand, it was probably a good time, thats the way I had to learn, which was probably was the best way. So ... so ...