Julie Martin Oral History Transcript Block 162 (Q20032)

Martin: Billy articulating it to me. Billys idea about saving engineering was one he had had for a long time. He articulated it in some early things he wrote. He had wanted the individual engineer to be more aware of what he/she was doing and to see they could affect the systems they were working on. And then he saw the artist as this vehicle for stimulating change. I think that Bob understood i